Comments on: #iranelection http://flipthemedia.com/index.php/2009/06/iranelection/ At the crossroads of Media, Culture and Technology Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:27:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Kraig Giorgianni http://flipthemedia.com/index.php/2009/06/iranelection/comment-page-1/#comment-6960 Kraig Giorgianni Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:56:38 +0000 http://flipthemedia.com/?p=3284#comment-6960 No doubt the other readers were thinking, "With affection beaming out of one eye and calculation shining out of the other..". No doubt the other readers were thinking, “With affection beaming out of one eye and calculation shining out of the other..”.

]]> By: R.S http://flipthemedia.com/index.php/2009/06/iranelection/comment-page-1/#comment-3544 R.S Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:28:47 +0000 http://flipthemedia.com/?p=3284#comment-3544 Please force on Iran,s islamic regim not to ditained and killing ellection protests. Please force on Iran,s islamic regim not to ditained and killing ellection protests.

]]> By: Brook Ellingwood http://flipthemedia.com/index.php/2009/06/iranelection/comment-page-1/#comment-3542 Brook Ellingwood Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:29:05 +0000 http://flipthemedia.com/?p=3284#comment-3542 Reading this made me start thinking about how, even after Mumbai and Iran, Twitter is so easy to make fun of. I came up with this in a comment thread on Facebook and am cross-posting it here: Shirky did a nice sidestep: When asked about Iran and Twitter he kept replying about Iran and social media. Metaphor alert! The related technologies that power online media are television and Twitter is "I Love Lucy." Yes, "I Love Lucy" is important and worth study, but it didn't transform society -- television did. Too much focus on Twitter as though it was the medium and not just one well-done use of the medium is what people reflexively react to. And by "people" I mean Jon Stewart. Reading this made me start thinking about how, even after Mumbai and Iran, Twitter is so easy to make fun of. I came up with this in a comment thread on Facebook and am cross-posting it here:

Shirky did a nice sidestep: When asked about Iran and Twitter he kept replying about Iran and social media.

Metaphor alert! The related technologies that power online media are television and Twitter is “I Love Lucy.” Yes, “I Love Lucy” is important and worth study, but it didn’t transform society — television did.

Too much focus on Twitter as though it was the medium and not just one well-done use of the medium is what people reflexively react to. And by “people” I mean Jon Stewart.

]]> By: LADunkin http://flipthemedia.com/index.php/2009/06/iranelection/comment-page-1/#comment-3541 LADunkin Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:22:44 +0000 http://flipthemedia.com/?p=3284#comment-3541 @hrhmedia great post! I had a "discussion" regarding this topic yesterday via Facebook with a friend who was arguing that "news" isn't "news" unless it comes from "a reputable journalistic organization with a record of fact checking and some accountability against complete bias" otherwise it was just gossip. In response, I tried to explain that when things are moving at that pace (#iranelection) the type of journalism he described doesn't work. In a closed country, getting facts checked and being unbiased is a very hard thing to come by. Yes, the tweets from the unreputable sources will be biased, but as thinking beings we can use our filters to decipher the information for ourselves, we don't need to be spoon fed our news. Also, they are using Twitter to get videos and photos out that show the true happenings which can be better than a fact checked article produced by a bureaucracy. The whole situation is an interesting phenomenon to "watch" but most importantly above social media tools, journalists vs. tweeters, etc. is that the whole world is watching now, it's something that has become real and not just a news clip on TV happening many miles away. The story is being told by the people and it's touching us. @hrhmedia great post! I had a “discussion” regarding this topic yesterday via Facebook with a friend who was arguing that “news” isn’t “news” unless it comes from “a reputable journalistic organization with a record of fact checking and some accountability against complete bias” otherwise it was just gossip. In response, I tried to explain that when things are moving at that pace (#iranelection) the type of journalism he described doesn’t work. In a closed country, getting facts checked and being unbiased is a very hard thing to come by. Yes, the tweets from the unreputable sources will be biased, but as thinking beings we can use our filters to decipher the information for ourselves, we don’t need to be spoon fed our news. Also, they are using Twitter to get videos and photos out that show the true happenings which can be better than a fact checked article produced by a bureaucracy.
The whole situation is an interesting phenomenon to “watch” but most importantly above social media tools, journalists vs. tweeters, etc. is that the whole world is watching now, it’s something that has become real and not just a news clip on TV happening many miles away. The story is being told by the people and it’s touching us.

]]> By: hrhmedia http://flipthemedia.com/index.php/2009/06/iranelection/comment-page-1/#comment-3540 hrhmedia Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:22:17 +0000 http://flipthemedia.com/?p=3284#comment-3540 Despite my social media passion, quoted as naysayer in this afternoon's MSNBC.com story on #iranelection today: http://is.gd/14Ojw. I'm on Fox Q13 tonight here in Seattle on both the use of social media in Iran, and on the political situation itself (dusting off my rusty foreign correspondent analyses). Despite my social media passion, quoted as naysayer in this afternoon’s MSNBC.com story on #iranelection today: http://is.gd/14Ojw. I’m on Fox Q13 tonight here in Seattle on both the use of social media in Iran, and on the political situation itself (dusting off my rusty foreign correspondent analyses).

]]> By: hrhmedia http://flipthemedia.com/index.php/2009/06/iranelection/comment-page-1/#comment-3536 hrhmedia Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:31:50 +0000 http://flipthemedia.com/?p=3284#comment-3536 Thanks for your comments. TechNewsWorld quoted this post (and interviewed me) in "The Whole World is Watching, Flickering, Tweeting." Love this notion of "liberation technologies." http://www.technewsworld.com/story/Iran-Protests-The-Whole-World-Is-Watching-Flickring-Tweeting-67352.html Thanks for your comments. TechNewsWorld quoted this post (and interviewed me) in “The Whole World is Watching, Flickering, Tweeting.” Love this notion of “liberation technologies.” http://www.technewsworld.com/story/Iran-Protests-The-Whole-World-Is-Watching-Flickring-Tweeting-67352.html

]]> By: crackerbelly http://flipthemedia.com/index.php/2009/06/iranelection/comment-page-1/#comment-3535 crackerbelly Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:01:16 +0000 http://flipthemedia.com/?p=3284#comment-3535 Exactly right Hanson, #iranelection is the go-to place for news on what's happening in Tehran. There are others that have done a pretty good job of filtering and featuring the best of what they see coming out of this hashtag channel such as Andrew Sullivan with The Atlantic (http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com) but there is really little doubt that the dissidents themselves are the journalists in this thing and they are using Twitter. I wish I spoke Farsi. I suspect that would make the picture more clear for me. I just noticed a tweet via @BoingBoing saying that Twitter has delayed scheduled maintenance to avoid hampering the news flow from Iran (http://tinyurl.com/n5z6s2). They will do the scheduled updates at 2 to 3pm Pacific time which is 1:30 to 2:30am in Iran. Nice call on the part of Twitter management. Exactly right Hanson, #iranelection is the go-to place for news on what’s happening in Tehran. There are others that have done a pretty good job of filtering and featuring the best of what they see coming out of this hashtag channel such as Andrew Sullivan with The Atlantic (http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com) but there is really little doubt that the dissidents themselves are the journalists in this thing and they are using Twitter. I wish I spoke Farsi. I suspect that would make the picture more clear for me.

I just noticed a tweet via @BoingBoing saying that Twitter has delayed scheduled maintenance to avoid hampering the news flow from Iran (http://tinyurl.com/n5z6s2). They will do the scheduled updates at 2 to 3pm Pacific time which is 1:30 to 2:30am in Iran. Nice call on the part of Twitter management.

]]> By: Eric Weaver http://flipthemedia.com/index.php/2009/06/iranelection/comment-page-1/#comment-3533 Eric Weaver Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:10:24 +0000 http://flipthemedia.com/?p=3284#comment-3533 Hugely insightful. Thank you. Hugely insightful. Thank you.

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